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24th Apr 2024

Now Showing: The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare

The Mikes have been recruited by Carey Elwes to put an end to some German U-Boats...wait, no...that's Henry Cavil and Alan Ritchson in The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

Join Mike Field and Mike Butler as they discuss this new Guy Ritchie film based on a recently declassified mission from World War 2.

So, grab your popcorn and soda, please notice the exits to the left and right of you and settle down for Forgotten Cinema: Now Showing.

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Transcript
Speaker:

Ladies and gentlemen, please notice

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that exits are conveniently located

at the front and rear of this auditorium.

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When leaving the theater,

you suggest that the exit at the front of

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the auditorium will allow you

easier access to the parking area.

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Thank you.

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Hi, I'm Mike Butler.

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And I'm Mike field.

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And welcome to Forgotten Cinema lead up.

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Each episode,

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we highlight a film from a popular series

and follow it all the way to the. No.

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It's incorrect. Butler.

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We're doing.

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We're doing now showing

where the hell is now showing.

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oh. We don't have it.

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We just say forgotten cinema not showing.

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It's not really.

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Yeah. That's what we've been doing.

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I could've sworn I got yelled

at last time for looking for it.

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And you were like

we don't have one, we just do it.

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Hi, I'm Mike

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Butler, And I'm Mike field

and you're watching.

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Forgotten cinema now showing where we take

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a look at one of the newest releases

and talk about what we thought about it.

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In this case, this week,

we're talking about the Ministry

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of Ungentlemanly Warfare,

not the League of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

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I think some of. Yeah.

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I fix the reel that you did.

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I, I saw I saw the post that you change.

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The other thing

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I did, you see that

I dubbed you with my voice.

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Oh, no, I didn't watch it.

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You also.

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Yeah. You're like, hi, guys.

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This is it.

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We're talking about the Ministry of.

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I love it.

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All right, so we watched this yesterday.

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We did.

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We went to our local cinema, Cinemark,

our local cineplex.

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Excuse me, has Cinemark.

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It was a Cinemark,

but we went to our local theater,

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and we actually didn't watch in Imax

because it's not in Imax.

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We saw it in one of the other theaters

where it has the recliners

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that were in interesting

shape, to say the least.

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so, I mean, where would you like to

what do you want to start here?

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You want to start off with, what you saw

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right off the bat or what

you were your anticipation for this movie.

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I mean, I didn't have

any kind of anticipation for this film.

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I wasn't normally like.

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Yeah, I mean, I like I,

Richie, was his last movie.

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We saw the gentleman. well,

you saw a covenant.

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I didn't see covenant.

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was that his last?

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That was his last film? Yeah,

the Jake Gyllenhaal one.

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I'm pretty sure that was the last one

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I saw. Covenant. Yep.

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Wrath of man is his two,

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right? He.

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He did. Wrath of man, right?

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Wasn't that.

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What.

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What's with, Statham?

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Isn't that.

Is that him, or was it Antoine Fuqua?

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Who did Wrath of Man?

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Oh I don't oh you're right, he did.

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He did do Wrath of Man. Right.

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Because I remember he

because he directed that during the

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pandemic.

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Yeah. Yeah, he did it.

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He did it on but but,

but but so did Fuqua.

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Did the one with

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Jake Gyllenhaal where he's the responder,

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where he's, the 911 operator, like,

he's been suspended. And.

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Oh, that was awesome as well.

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Yeah, well,

he was up in the vans of offset, so

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because you could tell like they were

it was shot during the pandemic

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and they were near each other

and stuff like that.

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so, so yeah. So no. Yeah.

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I guess the covenant, the last one I did

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see that you didn't see, Operation

Fortune, ruse.

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Dig? Yeah.

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Whatever they didn't see that one with,

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that's also with Jason Statham

and, Hugh Grant.

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that's the one.

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No, I wanted to I didn't get to see that

one because I don't know where it went.

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So that's in theaters

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because that's also got Josh Hartnett

as the idiot actor, right? Yes.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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That's actually not bad.

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That's pretty good. That's

that's not bad. Yeah.

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That's what I saw was the gentleman.

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Yeah.

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Which I didn't mention.

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I mean I didn't not like it, but

I was like oh it was okay when I saw it.

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But the more I see clips of it,

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the more I want to go back to it, because

every time I see a clip of I'm like,

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I like this scene, I like this scene.

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Colin Farrell is really good in

that Tom feels really good in that.

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Yeah.

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but that's a show now too

on Netflix though.

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They got a, they did like a Netflix.

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Yeah I think it is

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because somebody was somebody I know

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watched it

and he was trying to get me to watch it.

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So I said I'll get around to it.

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but anyways let's talk about this

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which I already forgot

the name of it, the Mysterio

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bathroom.

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Okay.

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I don't know, man.

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What what what did you think?

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I guess that's

probably the perfect question to ask.

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I mean, it's a movie where for two hours,

they pretty much kill Nazis.

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So I dug it. Yeah.

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It's always fun to kill Nazis.

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Everything we talk about on the podcast,

it's always nice to have a bad guy

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in a realistic movie where it's like,

yeah, no, they're the bad guy.

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And it's easy to.

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It's easy to be okay with all the murder.

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I was a little disappointed

in the violence level, like the violence

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was there.

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Especially when Alan Richardson's

character goes nuts.

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yeah.

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But it wasn't very.

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It's rated R, but it's not very gory.

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It kind of hides and, hides the violence.

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It's almost like it's trying to be peachy.

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13 but they say the F-word a couple times.

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yeah, I don't know.

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I mean, maybe, maybe there was some

maybe they were kind of

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on the fence trying

to figure out what they wanted to do.

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rating wise, I thought that a little.

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I mean, we're so used to.

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I mean, I guess I'm waiting for, like,

an Inglorious Basterds type bloodbath.

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Kind of sad.

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Yeah.

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so,

I can understand that there were there

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probably were some stuff,

like when he's got the ax and he's like,

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you know, he's

definitely doing some bad stuff.

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you know,

I guess it leaves it to the imagination,

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but but again, to be, to, to, to be fair,

I guess I don't

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I don't know if Guy Ritchie's really known

for that much.

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I was like,

I was thinking that too, after the fact.

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Yeah. I can't remember. Like.

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I mean, he's doesn't have a lot of blood,

gentlemen.

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I know, I mean,

but it's like it's violent gangsters.

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But there's never a lot of hardcore

violence, if that makes sense.

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Yeah, right.

No he doesn't. Yeah. He never.

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His movies

don't really kind of cross that line.

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More like a Tarantino might or others.

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I can't think of a top of my head, but.

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Yeah. So so

I guess I was, I was fine with that.

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But like with it, when you talk about

the bad guys, I think there was never

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there was never any real danger of them

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being caught or being killed or,

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you know, like anything

happening to them.

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So I think that, you know, that that,

that kind of like

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it allows you to have to enjoy the film

and not worry about that

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kind of stuff, but also

but then there's no stakes at hand.

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There's no kind of like,

oh my God, what's going to happen?

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I kind of know

they're going to get away with it.

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So it's

kind of a double edged sword, but I think,

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I think the film clearly trying to set up

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another one, I would assume,

like they're trying to do more

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because it felt like that.

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I mean, according to the film, Gus,

who's a Henry Cavill's character,

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only has one more mission. And,

before it gets captured.

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oh. That was him who got captured.

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I thought it was, Not.

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You mean Henry Golden?

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Is Henry Golden? Gus.

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Who's Gus?

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I thought it was Henry Cavill's. Gus.

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I don't think so.

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I just remembering his Gus's.

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And you.

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I know this thing's going in, man.

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Now he is Gus,

but I don't think he gets captured.

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I think it was, I thought it was.

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I thought it was like Hades or something

like that.

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Or one of the

one of the other guys or Freddie Alvarez.

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I thought it was one of them who gets,

captured because Gus is the first one.

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They pop up and it talks

about how it gives him, like all this,

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that he was the inspiration for change,

but it doesn't tell anything.

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But then the second or third guy

is the one that gets captured

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and who never breaks.

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I thought they just go back to Gus

and saying, gusted to

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another mission afterward.

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And he got caught, but he never broke.

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No, that wasn't I don't that I really

don't think that was his character.

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I think that was somebody else,

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because he ends up marrying Marjorie

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Stewart like a year later after that,

that mission, that's what they said.

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And, but regardless,

who cares regarding that?

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Regardless?

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so yeah, I didn't really have any kind of

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I really didn't have any kind of,

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I don't know, a negative thing.

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I enjoyed the film.

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I didn't really have any kind of

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oh, that took me out in like this,

you know, anything like that.

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So I don't know.

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I'm trying to figure out, I guess maybe

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my biggest knock,

whatever it was, was there's no stakes.

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There's no there's no concern that they're

not going to get away with it or not.

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I can't do what they need to do.

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I will ask you this, though.

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They go and steal one boat.

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But weren't there three boats

that they were supposed to get?

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Isn't there like a third boat

somewhere or two?

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Two other boats in a different like,

you know what I mean?

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Like they were like

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there were the U-boats themselves

or whatever, but they they decided

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we're just going to steal the boat

that's going to supply them.

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And that's what I'm over.

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Okay.

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So I mean, I guess the,

the montage of when they're sailing, like,

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because at some point

they got to sail for 12 days

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and it's like nothing really happens

with the the ministry.

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They're just kind of on the boat

sailing along.

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So I didn't really think that,

there wasn't really much happening.

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And then

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at the end of the movie when they kind of,

they line them all up

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and they have hair on with them

and they have, Marjorie with them.

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They're like, you know, you

you ministry of ungentlemanly,

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you ministry of, you know,

ungentlemanly warfare. It's like.

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But I didn't think

that they were part of that.

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I thought they were just add ons.

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They were just there to help out.

They were setting everything up.

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And these ruffians were going

to were the actual guys that, you know.

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Right?

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They were just doing what I did beforehand

to get the information.

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And it was everyone

at one time together and

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because they well, because they all got

caught in international waters,

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right, with the German, which,

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with a mission that was unsanctioned.

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So even though they were spies,

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they were still doing

the unsanctioned mission.

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So they were still technically traitors

to their country.

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Okay.

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So yeah.

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But, do you go ahead?

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Well, another thing, when you talk about

stakes, it's like you have the,

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what's the actress name?

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I actually I actually really like him.

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the German guy.

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I'll take he's got a.

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Yeah, he was, he was

heavier till till Schweiger.

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He was heavier in, Bastards.

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He was like, beat, like.

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I guess he was like,

you know, like bulkier number, heavier.

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Because he was supposed to be super scary.

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Yeah, he wasn't quite like the bear.

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The bear drew was like,

obviously Eli Roth with huge.

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But he was supposed to be like someone

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you don't mess with

who killed like a ton of Nazis.

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But in this one, when he appears,

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it's like you get,

oh, he's got blood in his hands.

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And you see the beaten woman in his,

briefly,

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and his his, I guess, beating room,

which is, I guess, okay.

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At your cabin.

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Yeah.

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But it's just like there's no stakes.

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You don't get to see how bad he torture.

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Like, not that I want to see

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how bad he tortured her, but, like,

there's no real stakes.

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Again, we don't know exactly.

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Like, we know he's got, like,

a thing for beating people, but

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there's no stakes with his character.

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I never felt like Isaac, Gonzalez's

character was ever going to be.

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Was really in danger.

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And like,

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first thing, you're supposed to think

like, oh, Marjorie is going to get kicked.

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And it's like,

I never thought that, you know,

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like when they were going to shackle her

up and then then they hear the explosion

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and he's like,

he's like, shackle her or whatever.

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And but I didn't see

they're going to take her with them.

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I thought they were just

going to leave her there.

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Then, you know, that's what I thought too.

And then she's in the car.

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Yeah, but then I thought

maybe they'd get her on.

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his character,

the guy from, Strange New Worlds.

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Because he gets caught in the.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he gets caught in the

electric room trying to shut the power.

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And I was like,

all right, then that's that's it.

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He's going to get caught.

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One person's got stakes.

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And then I mean, granted,

it's based on a true story.

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So if they all survived,

they all survived.

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But like,

that was the one moment I thought,

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all right,

someone's not going to get away with it.

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And then he kills every single person

and he gets away right.

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Well,

with the exception of Heinrich Lure, who.

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Which is the character

that Till Schweiger played?

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the the other Nazis were,

were kind of bumbling.

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They're kind of buffoonish.

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Like they're very easy to kill, very easy.

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Like to to trick. Very easy to like.

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I mean, maybe that's just kind of like the

when even when they went to the prison,

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and they and they rescued,

the guy that the robber.

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Yeah. Henry. Right.

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Yeah. Yes. was a Philip. Yeah. Henry.

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Oh, no.

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Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Jeffrey.

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When they go to rescue him,

it just doesn't seem like the

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the the Nazis were,

a well-organized, unit.

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all over.

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And I don't know if that's

just the location of where they were,

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like, in terms of in southern Africa,

or it was just kind

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of, you know, I mean, like,

they're not in the fight kind of thing.

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I think there's also

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kind of just like, hey, we want the Nazis

to be buffoonish and but like, we want.

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Yeah. Okay.

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So it's kind of like,

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oh, nobody's going to complain

and nobody's going to complain about that.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Nobody's going to complain about that

that, that, you know, they,

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they want to see the ministry

take care of business and whatnot.

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So and then it's got

and it's got really good action

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in that way, especially like you said,

Al Allen Richardson's character,

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what's his character? The Anders.

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You know, he's got a lot of good stuff

going on.

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He he's, you know, it's.

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And then you got Henry Cavill just kind of

when he's flipping here and there,

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when he goes in and he starts

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laughing with the joke,

and then he takes everybody out.

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Oh, in the, in the barracks

when the prisoner.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or the one Nazi who's trying to get the,

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the commander's attention

and he's like, shut up.

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And then all of a sudden it's too late

because the air gun just rips

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through them.

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Yeah, yeah. The.

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I wanted to ask you this

because I don't know this offhand,

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and I don't know

because you love James Bond so much.

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I'm wondering if you know this.

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The Carol Ellis character,

oh, was character

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Brigadier

Gubbins, who's m the history of M.

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What is that?

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Do you do

you know, like when that started.

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What?

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That like,

you know, the whole character of M

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because you see that,

it all starts in World

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War two in terms of,

like what Ian Fleming did.

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okay.

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I, I'm pretty sure there is real

in real life, at least in World War two,

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there wasn't a m

that was an actual station.

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He's all them.

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Yeah.

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I'm curious where

the origination of the term comes from.

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I don't know if you knew that offhand.

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Oh, I don't know. Okay.

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I think it comes from master

like he's the master of the group.

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That's what I always assumed.

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But he's under my master Churchill.

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Yeah, but he's under Churchill.

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He's under correct?

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Yeah. The p m. Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, because Churchill basically started

that's why he was

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Churchill

was big on the underhanded kind of stuff.

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I thought that was that Kingsman.

I get whatever he was.

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Yeah, okay.

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I was just curious about that.

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if if you, I kind of

gotta give a plug now for,

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if you the the actor that played,

Ian Fleming, Freddie Fox, he's actually

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in a show that I watch on Apple called

Slow Horses with, Gary Oldman.

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yeah.

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I recommend that.

That's actually British.

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Do you know what it's about?

You know what the slow horses are?

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It's like a bumbling group of, like,

the underdogs, the group of spies.

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They're not.

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They're not bumbling

because they're in Slough House.

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That's where they're.

That's why they're called Slow Horses.

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That's

where they're located in Slough House.

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And what it is

is, is agents that have messed up

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have done something like

with not just like screwed up and up, but,

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you know, maybe have a gambling addiction

just to, to screw ups.

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But and so they, they don't want to

they don't quit.

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So they, they send them to this to,

to Slough House where they just sit there.

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And Gary Oldman is like a,

a, he's there,

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he's their boss

and he's kind of a screw up too,

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but he just he just doesn't

he's like extremely mean to them.

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But anyways.

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And Fleming, he's he's in that

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he's in that show and he it's it's

a good show and and they keep get renewed.

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They got renewed for

like what I like about the show is

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they're like six, eight episodes,

maybe 6 or 6 episodes.

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And, and when they end the season,

they've already shot the next season.

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So you see a preview of the

of the new season coming up.

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And he's doing a bunch of books. Yeah.

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And it's just it's it's a nice quick show.

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It's it's about spies in Britain.

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So I don't know I recommend it if, if you

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if you're ever feeling that itch

I do want to check it out.

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I do obviously I love spy stuff.

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So I've put on my list of stuff

to check out.

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I have finished

running. I'm trying to get.

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Yeah, please.

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I've already already watched, monarch.

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I already watched that whole thing.

That was ten episodes, baby.

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Look at you. Look at you go.

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I know I said I would do it when we did.

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the now showing for Godzilla,

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and Godzilla and Gam

Kong, whatever, blah blah, blah, whatever.

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That was the subtitle again,

the forgotten and, New Empire.

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Empire just

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so. Anyways, so I guess there's really,

I mean, we we liked it.

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It's a fun movie to go to.

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It's clearly a movie for dudes,

I think primarily.

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I mean, although I would imagine it's

probably going to be coming, to digital

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real quick because we were two of seven

in the theater last night.

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So, yeah,

if not, and I and I'm pretty sure, yeah,

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I'm pretty sure the, the young people,

the teenagers that were there,

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the teenagers are

probably were like in their early 20s,

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really couldn't care

less about what was on screen.

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So, because they were

this was so, right.

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It was. Yeah.

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It was just you and me.

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And then there's two single dude sitting

in front of us, separate separately.

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I know there was an old couple as well.

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Oh. Was there okay, so it was

there wasn't a lot of people in theater.

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So I would imagine this is coming straight

to digital very soon.

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but hey, that's them's

them's the breaks, right?

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The theaters are.

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It is a thing.

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Well, I mean, they were also

and I think I mentioned it to you,

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they're going up against two other Rated-R

movies.

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You've got Civil War, which is still doing

well in the box office,

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and they went up against Abigail, which is

a horror movie that's rated R as well.

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So then you have this World War Two

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kind of Guy Ritchie movie

kind of stuck in the center.

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One thing I was a little disappointed with

this movie is it didn't do a lot of Guy

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Ritchie stuff.

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I don't know if you kind of

call it that or disappointed.

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I just kind of like

it's like a heist or a planned.

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It's all it's all about a plot, a scheme.

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And they didn't really do that. Typical.

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Because here's what we're going to do.

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All right.

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But what you don't realize

is we already done did it.

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I was a little sad

that it didn't have any of those moments.

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Well, it was more of a linear.

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It was more of a linear, story.

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So I guess you really didn't

have to, like,

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I was trying to remember if they do like,

kind of background on people.

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He does it though, when, when Gus is

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saying who he wants to be on his team.

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They do kind of do that little flashback

to the East character, but not in the way

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that, you know, we're used to with a Guy

Ritchie film.

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Right?

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So, I, I understand that and, but

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I think it's that's

because the story didn't lend to that.

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I think it's more of a linear story

that that's what, that's what lent.

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That's what probably, you know, Guy

Ritchie realized maybe, you know, he

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he didn't need to do all that because,

I mean, I enjoy all that stuff, but it's

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it depends on the story.

It depends if it needs it.

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You know?

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Well, I think this with the scheme,

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it would add some kind of tension

to scenes where it's like

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you don't know

if they're going to get out,

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but it's like, but like the guys who get

chained into their their warehouse.

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Maybe you don't know that

until that's revealed.

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Oh wait, they've been locked in or,

you know, oh,

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we're going to blow up the lights or,

you know, you can you can add tension

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and then reveal how that

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tension is resolved afterward, which Guy

Ritchie's really, really, really good at.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't,

I mean, he's not done it before.

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He didn't do it in Aladdin.

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Of course.

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he, he you know,

what's funny is the the King Arthur movie

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that he did, he had some of that in there,

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and I thought that that was not right

for that film was off putting.

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I agree, I was not I mean yeah.

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So so yeah. So sometimes it works,

sometimes it doesn't.

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But hey, I'm you know, I think what we got

was, was was good and fun

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and I'd watch it again when it comes on

digital just to kind of catch it again.

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and there's a lot of people in it

that I didn't realize right now

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when we were watching it.

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I didn't realize that

because you mentioned with Henry Golding,

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I didn't realize it was Henry Golding

either until we caught it.

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Yeah, right. It's I, I was like,

oh, shoot, he was in there.

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And then and then looking at it now,

they had the guy who was the original,

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Alex Pettyfer is here, wasn't

he the original Percy Jackson

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when that's that when it originally

came out, wasn't that him?

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Oh, Or is or was he in?

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I know the number one.

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The number for one I am for. Is that it?

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Well, that's also interesting as well.

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Right, right.

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So I didn't realize that was him.

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then Rory Kinnear play Churchill,

which was really like.

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I mean, this is the same

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I mean, this is a side note,

but like, or tangent,

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but like, with all these streamers

and all these movies that come out and,

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you know, like Netflix and Apple

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and all these shows, it's really difficult

to kind of follow a character,

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follow an actor and just kind of be like,

oh, I like him.

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He was it

because they're all over the place.

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And then you see,

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and then somebody pops up in this movie

and you're like, oh, they're really good.

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And you don't really like,

they've probably been like 4

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or 5 things you haven't seen before

that were really good.

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you know what I mean?

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They're just it's so difficult to I think

that's good for an actor, though. Now.

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Oh, I was, I, I think I must yeah.

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They get worse. Yeah.

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They get a lot of work.

They can do a lot of different projects.

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You're not stuck with just,

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you know, well, especially like people

that end up doing Marvel,

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it's like they've before streamers

that would have been their career.

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Like, oh, I'm only known for this.

This is what I have to do.

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And like they can go off

and do other stuff.

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I mean, look at, Adam Driver,

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I think before this kind of stuff

took off, he would have been one.

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No, he'd been, a Star Wars villain. Now.

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He would have just had girls beforehand.

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But now with streamers and all that

and so many different avenues,

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I think that's what's allowed him

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to really be able to do stuff

like Marriage Story and,

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whatever that Knight movie was with,

Matt Damon, they have to see

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that now.

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The, Yeah, the,

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what was that?

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You never saw it.

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I didn't know, I didn't I didn't watch it.

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I wanted to see it in theaters.

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I still work at the theater.

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And then the last duel.

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Yes, but I think that's really good

for actors

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to be able to,

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to do all that.

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Also, my mom just texted me,

instead of messaging on, on YouTube.

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She's watching.

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And she said,

my mustache is doofy and it's doofy.

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I said, that it's based on,

Henry Cavill's mustache for the movie.

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This is what he does with his beard

while shave it.

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so the other thing I was going to say

was, well,

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what you were saying, I understand,

but I'm looking at, I'm talking about

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from a audience member,

from somebody who's a cinephile.

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I'm saying it's kind of difficult

to latch on to, to certain

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when you see an actor

and you just kind of like, oh, I never,

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you know, like more and more.

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Maybe I'm just old. More and more times

I just see people like, what?

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Where are they from?

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Like, so I mean, I know a lot

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most of the cast, I've seen a lot of stuff

they've been and it's just,

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I don't know, I guess

that's my old man take for the night.

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I would say that

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nowadays, more than ever, you need,

like IMDb to follow an actor's like,

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find out what else would that cause

it is, like you said, everywhere.

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What if I'm like, what?

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But like this?

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Take it from the fact

that if I'm a casual moviegoer,

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you know, like like when you like,

we talk about this

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on the podcast in the main show

about the big head posters that came out,

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you know, like Harrison

Ford always had a big head poster.

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Tom Cruise has a big head to head poster

because those faces sell tickets.

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Denzel Washington, big head,

because that's why people go there.

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So like,

we like, if you took this cast, you

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I mean, I know

the poster has a couple of them

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there, with the exception of Henry Cavill,

maybe Alan Ritchson because of.

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But I think he's a regional.

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Yeah, but but again, not

everyone has Prime Video.

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So like that's the thing

I'm talking about.

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Like that's where he and I know he's on.

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what was the,

high school football, college football on?

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not Franklin State.

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Blue Mountain State was his. Yeah.

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Yeah, I know he was in that too.

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I'm just saying, like, it's

very like we know Herron be from

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because he's in the Star Trek show.

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So I mean, like, that's where we know him.

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But again everyone it's Paramount Plus.

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So it's like it's it's stuff like that

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that I'm just saying it's

maybe for the casual moviegoer, it's

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really difficult these days

to kind of latch on to a movie star,

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somebody that is on the rise

or is in a lot of film stuff.

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I don't know, it's just something

that kind of makes everybody

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and makes everybody

a character actor instead of a movie star.

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Which which again, it that's good.

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I like that because it's good

you getting quality but again.

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But you need to the world needs movie

stars and celebrities.

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You need that.

You know what I mean? You just do.

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The world of the movie star is ending.

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No, I don't think so, man.

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I don't think so.

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The world of the superstar. I don't think

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a lot of

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superstars are going to have to be multi

multifaceted.

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You're going to have to be a music and

movie superstar or something like that.

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Can I say that every decade

that they still have people

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that are just strictly

there's a there's just

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there's somebody out there

that you we've probably seen in 1 or 2

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things is going to blow up again

and be a big time action star.

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You think there's going to be

another Harrison Ford or Tom cruise?

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I don't, I don't they're out there.

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They're out there.

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Oh totally.

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Totally. They're out there 100%.

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absolutely.

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We I, we might not be able to zero in

on who it is, but 200%,

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there's absolutely going to be somebody

that is on some kind of TV show

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that you probably have never seen.

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And they're going to

they're going to be in something and like,

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you know, whatever it is

and they're going to be a sir, absolutely.

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I believe in the process. Butler

I believe it's you.

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It's going to be you.

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Oh, not with this mustache.

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Exactly, exactly.

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All right.

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So I mean, I mean,

I don't know what else to say about this.

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but go check it out if you can.

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what else do you want to close off with?

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Anything?

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in their current format

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everybody,

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You got a couple more left.

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I know we're doing, plan to the,

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Kingdom of the planet of the apes,

and we're doing the, Oh, nice.

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Here, you can use the banners.

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All right.

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Kingdom of the planet of the apes

National production here.

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About 2 or 3 weeks. Right.

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it may have come to May

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15th,

because once again, there's 11, 12, 13th.

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We watch it

14th, May 14th. Yeah. May 14th.

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And then we're doing Furiosa as well,

a mad Max saga.

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So we're going to do those, and then it's

going to become part of the Patreon.

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but also if you want to join the Patreon,

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Join the Patreon.

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So that's should

be a really fun time as well.

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Nice.

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Forgotten Cinema
A podcast about forgotten films that deserve a second chance
Welcome to Forgotten Cinema! Each episode, Mike Field and Mike Butler highlight a film that for a variety of reasons was forgotten by audiences. Whether it be because a more popular movie was released at the same time or the movie simply didn’t catch on with an audience in the its initial run. We’ll discuss what we love about the movie or perhaps don’t love about it and decide whether the movie is worth a revisit.